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From jimc@haddock.UUCP Tue Aug 13 12:01:00 1985
Subject: Re: _Casablanca_ (spoiler)
Still and all, I thought the performances were quite good. Though
the script was pedantic in a few places, and sometimes it lacked
direction, I still like it. It is definitely an assertion of
societal values in a time when they are being strained in every
direction.
I am interested in seeing what these actors do next. I saw
Humphrey Bogart do _The_Maltese_Falcon_ a couple of years ago,
and before that, _The_Petrified_Forest_, and though he was good
in each, I wearied of his "tough-guy" appeal. In _Casablanca_,
he revealed some vulnerability which demonstrated versatility I
didn't know he had, and that made it a good performance. Ingrid
Bergman is beautiful, and she did quite well. I imagine that
once the war is over, she'll have a flying career.
Jim Campbell
..!{ihnp4, allegra, harvard}!ima!haddock!jimc
From gadfly@ihuxn.UUCP (Gadfly) Mon Aug 12 20:18:27 1985
Subject: Re: _Casablanca_ (spoiler)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
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> Perhaps it is appropriate that _Casablanca_ was filmed in black and
> white, for that is certainly the way it sees the various ethnicities
> of humankind.
Just lucky I guess.
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From rdz@ccice5.UUCP (Robert D. Zarcone) Wed Aug 14 11:00:48 1985 Subject: _Casablanca_ (spoiler) Organization: CCI Central Engineering, Rochester, NY This was a joke, right? If you were serious, please let me know so that I will never read anything you post again!
From pking@uiucuxc.Uiuc.ARPA Wed Aug 14 13:07:00 1985 Subject: Re: _Casablanca_ (spoiler) maybe it was filmed in black white because it was made some 40 or so years ago -- is this guy for real?
From masuma@drupa.UUCP (Masuma Rahman) Fri Aug 16 19:03:12 1985 Subject: Re:Re: _Casablanca_ (spoiler) Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Denver Kelvin Thompson, I hate to say this, but are you flaming your own articles because no one else is anymore? TSK!!! TSK!!! I mean, no one out there in net land believes you anymore do they? Shame on you!!!!!!!
From dsg@hlwpb.UUCP (D.Green) Fri Aug 16 08:18:01 1985 Subject: Re: _Casablanca_ (spoiler) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Short Hills, NJ If you really want some definitive insight about Casablanca, talk it over with my good friend Woody Allen ( Play It Again, Sam ). He can be found at Michael's Pub in NYC on any Monday night and usually at a Elaine's Restaurant for dinner almost every night. Oh, he lives on Park Ave. in the low 60's. I am sure that if you are in NYC, he would welcome the opportunity to discuss Casablanca with you. His film, Play It Again, Sam, corrected most of the deficiencies you spotted in Casablanca.
From moriarty@fluke.UUCP (Jeff Meyer) Sun Aug 18 12:44:49 1985
Subject: Re: _Casablanca_ & Woody Allen
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
In article <359@hlwpb.UUCP> dsg@hlwpb.UUCP (D.Green) writes:
>
>If you really want some definitive insight about Casablanca, talk it over
>with my good friend Woody Allen ( Play It Again, Sam ). He can be found
>at Michael's Pub in NYC on any Monday night and usually at a Elaine's
>Restaurant for dinner almost every night. Oh, he lives on Park Ave. in
>the low 60's. I am sure that if you are in NYC, he would welcome the
>opportunity to discuss Casablanca with you. His film, Play It Again, Sam,
>corrected most of the deficiencies you spotted in Casablanca.
Oh, you're THAT D. Green....
"Aha! Pronoun trouble!"
He's hard as rock, tough as nails, dense as concrete.
He's...
Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer
John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc.
From robertsl@stolaf.UUCP (Laurence C. Roberts) Tue Aug 27 16:53:20 1985 Subject: Kelvin stinks!!!!!!!!!!! Organization: St. Olaf College, Northfield MN You nitwits who are defending Kelvin Thompson are doing it all wrong. I think Kelvin Thompson is a nogood p**pyb*tt. He is really unsophisticated and immature and should go back where he came from. He's a nincompoop who can't even tell good movies from bad ones. I side with all the grownups who say he doesn't know what he's talking about. In fact, I learned some passwords and managed to crash his computer, so you won't have to worry for a while about dumb ol' Kelvin. These are my opinions, and you can't have them, so there!!! Laurence "Dont-call-me-Larry" Roberts "Your mama, your daddy, your bald-headed granny!!!" P.S. Would one of you numbskulls mail me the most recent review? St. Olaf was down computerwise.
From halle@hou2b.UUCP (J.HALLE) Wed Aug 28 11:56:46 1985 Subject: Re: Kelvin stinks!!!!!!!!!!! Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ There's another reason why Kelvin stinks. He can't tell the difference between what is and what could have been. He's right about Casablanca, it is one of the worst of all time. But that's because of the cast. If the studio had gone ahead with its first choice for the two leads, it could have been the greatest movie ever. And Kelvin did not even point this out. A deficient review if I ever saw one.
From render@uiucdcsb.Uiuc.ARPA Thu Aug 29 11:25:00 1985
Subject: Re: Kelvin stinks!!!!!!!!!!!
Written by robertsl@stolaf.UUCP:
> I think Kelvin Thompson is a nogood p**pyb*tt. He is really
> unsophisticated and immature and should go back where he came from. He's a
> nincompoop who can't even tell good movies from bad ones. I side with all the
> grownups who say he doesn't know what he's talking about. In fact, I learned
> some passwords and managed to crash his computer, so you won't have to worry
> for a while about dumb ol' Kelvin.
I will assume that this is an attempt by someone who thinks he is clever to
post a satirical response in the manner of Kelvin Thompson. You have
succeeded. It sucks. (God help us all if this guy is for real!)
I am not a fan of Thompson, but seeing the latest postings concerning his
reviews, I have to defend him. Some people on the net seem to find KT a
lucid, amusing writer. Others (myself, included) do not. He is attempting
something which is very difficult to do well and an aquired taste at best. If
you enjoy his writing, good for you. If you do not, ignore him. If no one
likes him, it will soon become obvious from the total lack of response. If he
does this purely for attention, this will halt his reviews. If, on the other
hand, he is serious about writing satirical reviews, he will work to improve
them. This would hopefully lead him to correct what some see as flaws in his
writing, and he could possibly become a widely-liked contributor. Lord knows
we could use a good satirist or two on the net. Now, can we stop spouting
off about Kelvin Thompson and get on with it?
Hal Render
From cjbiggin@watmath.UUCP (Colin Biggin) Thu Aug 29 18:45:50 1985
Subject: Re: Kelvin stinks!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario
Laurence C. Roberts writes:
>You nitwits who are defending Kelvin Thompson are doing it all wrong.
>
>I think Kelvin Thompson is a nogood p**pyb*tt. He is really
>unsophisticated and immature and should go back where he came from. He's a
>nincompoop who can't even tell good movies from bad ones. I side with all the
>grownups who say he doesn't know what he's talking about. In fact, I learned
>some passwords and managed to crash his computer, so you won't have to worry
>for a while about dumb ol' Kelvin.
>
>These are my opinions, and you can't have them, so there!!!
>
> Laurence "Dont-call-me-Larry" Roberts
> ...ihnp4!stolaf!robertsl
>
My my, aren't we the facile ass today. OK, I won't call you Larry, how
does idiot, dolt, shit-head, and peabrain sound instead. You think
Kelvin sounds immature... you should have reread this piece of refuse
that you just sent.
As to your opinions, you can keep them and shove them in unmentionable
places as well. As to Kelvin's brilliant satirical reviews which are
the only interesting things in this newsgroup, I for one enjoy them very
much. They are INOFFENSIVE and FUNNY. Let me stress the word INOFFESIVE
for you Larry since it seems you can't comprehend meanings and subtlety
very well. INOFFENSIVE means not harming (or offending anyone). Kelvin's
articles are mere potshots at well known and well liked movies. Hence,
(I think) amusing... They shouldn't offend anyone but for some unknown
reason, they do.
>P.S. Would one of you numbskulls mail me the most recent review? St. Olaf
>was down computerwise.
Sounds like you crashed your own system instead of Kelvin's... not surprising!
First you criticize Kelvin and now you want a copy of his latest review.
Not only are you an over-sensitive pansy-ass, but you're a hypocrite as well..
Once again, I like Kelvin's reviews and will continue to read them. I
personally don't see anything wrong with them except perhaps a slightly
inappropriate (or is it unappreciative) newsgroup... but there is no
net.satire so this IS the appropriate newsgroup...
cheers,
Colin Biggin cjbiggin!watmath!{allegra|clyde|ihnp4|utzoo}
University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario
From sean@ukma.UUCP (Sean Casey) Tue Sep 17 12:45:08 1985
Subject: Re: Kelvin stinks!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: The White Tower @ The Univ. of KY
In article <16304@watmath.UUCP> cjbiggin@watmath.UUCP (Colin Biggin) writes:
>Laurence C. Roberts writes:
>>You nitwits who are defending Kelvin Thompson are doing it all wrong.
>>
>>I think Kelvin Thompson is a nogood p**pyb*tt. He is really
>>unsophisticated and immature and should go back where he came from. He's a
>>nincompoop who can't even tell good movies from bad ones. I side with all the
>>grownups who say he doesn't know what he's talking about. In fact, I learned
>>some passwords and managed to crash his computer, so you won't have to worry
>>for a while about dumb ol' Kelvin.
>>
>>These are my opinions, and you can't have them, so there!!!
>>
>> Laurence "Dont-call-me-Larry" Roberts
>
>My my, aren't we the facile ass today. OK, I won't call you Larry, how
>does idiot, dolt, shit-head, and peabrain sound instead. You think
>Kelvin sounds immature... you should have reread this piece of refuse
>that you just sent.
The man was satirizing some of the not-so-nice reactions to Kelvin's
reviews. Geez, I hope no one else took him seriously.
Sean
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- University of Kentucky ARPA: ukma!sean@ANL-MCS.ARPA
From preece@ccvaxa.UUCP Fri Sep 6 11:30:00 1985
Subject: Re: Kelvin stinks!!!!!!!!!!!
> First you criticize Kelvin and now you want a copy of his latest
> review. Not only are you an over-sensitive pansy-ass, but you're a
> hypocrite as well.. /* Written 6:45 pm Aug 29, 1985 by
> cjbiggin@watmath.UUCP in ccvaxa:net.movies */
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I THINK the flame at Kelvin that you were responding to was meant as
satire in the same vein as Kelvin's reviews. This isn't particularly
more clear than that Kelvin's reviews aren't the work of the total
moron that they superficially appear to be, but I think the request
for the latest was specifically mean to be a give away of satirical
intent. I suppose maybe your response was also meant in the same
way. Sigh.
Who cares. I still think it's a pretty dumb form of humor ("Hey,
look how dumb I am! Aren't dumb people funny?!"), but at least
it's not pompous...
--
scott preece
From gatech!cbosgd!bellcore!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxqq!nosmo Mon Aug 12 19:24:34 1985
To: gatech!ut-sally!kelvin
Subject: Re: _Casablanca_ (spoiler)
Paul (von?) Heinried in "Good-by Mr. Chips"? Wasn't that
Clifton Webb? Wasn't Heinried in "Now, Voyager" with Bette Davis?
Now THAT's a film you should review!
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 85 21:29:09 pdt
From: topaz!packard!allegra!fluke!moriarty (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Re: _Casablanca_ (spoiler)
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Bravo! Very, very funny (the black & white popularity and the "requisite
music video number" in particular...)
Thanks; this made my evening...
"Happily, I read English."
(Draws sword) "Then read it happily"
If he's not one thing,
he's another. ---> Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer
John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc.
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